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GRADUATE
STUDENT CORNER
Hello everyone. This month, I used a great
idea one of the faculty/professional mentors
suggested to make things a little different.
The idea was to do a "flip" and let
the faculty and non-academic professionals ask
graduate students the questions.
I believe that doing this could serve several
purposes. First, letting faculty and non-academics
ask the questions gives them the opportunity
to find out directly how to help graduate students
without having to worry if the graduate students
they are asking are just telling them what they
want to hear. Obviously, all faculty and non-academics
have been students before, but they may have
attended school at a different type of university
or in a department with a different climate.
Second, letting graduate students answer the
questions can offer a unique opportunity to
find out exactly what is needed so that targeted
improvement in services that are specifically
available to them can be made. Finally, by answering
questions and then reading the responses of
others, graduate students can see a column of
this type as a resource that assures them that
they are not alone in their experiences. Though
it is reassuring to know that others have made
it through and are out there to support them
(faculty and non-academic professionals), it
is also comforting to know sometimes that others
are currently enduring similar events.
With all that being said, there was a healthy
response from faculty and non-academics in soliciting
questions for the graduate students. The response
from the graduate students was a little short
this month, which is completely understandable
with it being mid-term time. In order to make
up the shortfall, I answered a couple of the
questions myself. Therefore, the responses below
are not as representative as they could be,
but I hope that they will provide some interesting
food for thought. I do think that this is a
good idea and I hope that in the future, we
can try it again or another columnist will think
about trying it.
I can't believe it, but it's almost conference
time again. To that end, there are several conference-relevant
questions that should be of timely interest.
I would like to thank all of the faculty, professionals,
and students who took the time to send in questions
and responses. Also, one of the faculty members
was kind enough to write in and respond to student
questions that went unanswered from the previous
column. You will find those at the end of the
article. If you have any suggestions or comments,
please feel free to E-mail me at khefley@ou.edu.
Have a terrific remainder of the semester and
I hope to see many of you at the ASC conference
soon.
Contributors:
Professors and Non-Academic Mentors: Brenda
Blackwell, Kathleen Cameron, Mona Danner, Joanne
Kaufman, Susan Miller, Angie Moe
Students: Rachel Bandy, Amanda Burgess-Proctor,
Lisa Fahres, Kristen Hefley
What types of guidance/support/help (etc.)
would graduate students like to get from Professors
before, and at, professional conferences?
Being new to conferences, I was pretty intimidated.
I also wasn't sure how to best spend my time.
Prof's have kindly offered pre-conference 'dry
runs' in front of a dept audience of my presentations
with feedback. They also offered suggestions
about how to maximize the conference experience
(what receptions to attend, etc). I believe
that these simple acts have really helped professionalize
me into academia.
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I would like to know what is considered important
at the conference and what is considered less
important, so I can prioritize and try to be
present at the most significant events and don't
feel like I missed out on anything, and also
so I can meet people and network.
What should departments/faculty/mentors do
to help you prepare to present and attend conferences?
What do you expect from your faculty while you
are attending conferences (e.g., attending your
sessions, introducing you to other scholars,
etc.)?
I think faculty should encourage students to
attend conferences as undergrads so they can
first see what the world of academia is like.
I came home so inspired after my first conference.
I think it will help students decide if graduate
school is for them. Second, I think faculty
members and mentors need to encourage graduate
students to present at conferences more. All
to often it is the same people from my department
going to conferences and presenting and the
same ones who are not. Last, departments need
to offer graduate students funding specifically
for conference attendance. As graduate students
we are on limited budgets and these budgets
can sometimes discourage students from presenting
independently because they do not have the funds
needed to travel to and attend a conference.
While at the conference I do not expect my
mentor to attend my session every time. Once
in a while is nice in order to get some critical
feedback on the presentation. However, usually
my mentors have read drafts of my presentation
so they already know what is being done. It
is nice for mentors to introduce you to other
scholars while you are at conferences. There
is nothing like meeting the people whose work
you have read throughout your career and having
the opportunity to talk with them. In some cases
it can be like meeting your favorite Hollywood
celebrity.
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I am very fortunate because grad students in
my department are definitely socialized to attend
and present papers at conferences. This is accomplished
in several ways. First, and most fortunately
for us, grad students receive funding once a
year for travel expenses. Second, faculty members
strongly encourage students to present papers
that have been completed as class assignments.
So, for example, after one of my statistics
classes my professor encouraged us not only
to present our work at ASC or ACJS, but also
to submit the paper for publication. Third,
our department hosts a lunchtime "brown
bag" series, in which students can sign
up to practice their paper presentations before
the actual conference. (This also applies if
students on the job market wish to practice
their job talks before interviews begin.) Similarly,
grad student in my department work closely with
one another. You'll often find students practicing
their presentations with each other, or making
plans for carpooling to conferences (especially
for regional conferences, which typically are
easier to get to than national ones). Finally,
we have a department newsletter in which news
of student conference presentations is published.
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The first time I ever presented, I wanted faculty
members, friends, acquaintances, everyone in
the room with me. Now it is nice to have that
support from a trusted faculty member who you
know will provide you with quality feedback
later, but I don't absolutely need it for support
anymore. Before the conference, I like to show
my overheads and/or notes to my advisor to let
her look over what I have to say and see if
it makes sense. If she is willing to do that,
I am happy. I have tried not to be a pest and
follow the faculty members around that I know
while I am at conferences, but it can be pretty
intimidating at first because a lot of times
we don't know anyone unless they go to our university.
Now I am a lot more comfortable going out on
my own, mostly due to the DWC. I think that
is one of the ways that I have been helped the
most is by being introduced to a stable group
of attendees whom I can connect with and talk
to about common interests while I am at the
conference. Though I still think of faculty
members a little bit as my anchors, it is less
so more than it used to be. I don't expect faculty
members to do anything for me, though.
Do you glean significant benefits from the
DWC at the conference? Are there sessions that
you feel assist you in your growth as a budding
scholar? Would you like to see more of such
sessions?
I would be absolutely lost without DWC. I look
forward to going to DWC events every year and
seeing people I remember from the previous conferences.
The stability, support, and inspiration is what
means the most to me. The non-research oriented
DWC sessions (on teaching, publishing, etc.)
seem geared more toward either faculty or very
late term graduate students, so while I expect
them to eventually be useful, I haven't yet
found that they apply to me.
For graduate assistants, do you have recommendations
for how faculty can better work with you in
generating feasible assignments, assignments
that do not require constant supervision, yet
are still challenging and learning experiences?
Wow. I think this may only be possible in independent
study with a professor and student who are both
on the same page, but maybe not. Some things
that I always found challenging but that I did
not feel completely lost when I had to do them
were class presentations over reading material
and coming up with weekly questions to discuss.
If I, as the student, am responsible for the
material, I can't exactly ask the professor
to supervise me, as long as I understand the
assignment. I think one pitfall though is that
some students who aren't self-motivated will
not challenge themselves and will just "make
up" random questions or present things
that are loosely related. Yet you can grade
them subjectively (on how complex the questions
are, for example, or how well they presented
the material) or objectively (on how much discussion
their questions generated). These are my paltry
suggestions.
I am curious what kind of mentoring is most
desired and helpful? How can your mentors be
of most help to you?
From my experience and from talking with my
colleagues in my own department, it seems that
many new students are intimidated when they
first come into a department and some, perhaps
mostly females but maybe not, think they don't
have the right to approach professors with an
interest or question or think that they have
anything interesting to talk to professors about,
especially in a department where faculty give
off the impression that they are "very
busy." I think what would have been helpful
to me at the beginning would have been if faculty
members at least initiated more contact and
projects with me until I gained some of my own
graduate school "self-esteem," so
to speak, and also learned the norms of the
department and figured out that interacting
with faculty was not only okay, this was a part
of the process. So I guess a big part of mentoring
may be making us feel included so we can start
feeling more independent, which may sound like
a contradiction.
What would graduate students like for an
"ideal" mentor? (Describe the types
of support, deadlines, co-authorship opportunities
etc.)
To use a terrible cliche, someone who is going
to go to bat for you. Besides all of the things
that typically come with mentorship (guidance,
advice-giving, etc.), I think that it is really
important that the person who acts as your mentor
be very, very supportive of your work. This
does not necessarily mean that you mentor need
be like-minded or that she do the exact same
type of research, but only that she be a staunch
supporter of you and your work. Also, more specifically,
I can't say enough about how much I appreciate
my mentors introducing me to people at conferences.
It can be very intimidating to walk up to respected
people in the field and introduce yourself --
mentors, please be sure to drag your grad students
along to events and make introductions!
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From a mentor I would like someone who is realistic
about what can be accomplished over a certain
period of time. In our department we have some
faculties members that are a little too relaxed
with their students and others who are to nit
picky and hold up their students progress. The
mentor I currently have seems to have a good
balance when it comes to this area. This person
has me go through several drafts of things to
get it to a good quality and will sign off on
it with the understanding that we will come
back to it and polish it for publishing.
Since getting a job as an assistant professor
in many institutions depends on the number of
publications it would be nice to have faculty
members who are willing to publish with their
students. First, as a graduate student publishing
something is a scary process. It would be nice
to have your first potential publication co-authored
with a faculty member to get you through the
sometimes harsh criticisms from reviewers.
What type of climate do you need within
a department in order to feel supported and
welcome?
I'd like a dept with consistent, well-known
rules which are mutually created and agreed
upon (as is feasible). I'd also like a dept
with an established expectation for professional
behavior (no flying off the handle when a prof
is in a bad mood and crosses a student's path).
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I would like a department which in which people
do not feel alienated. I think there should
be an emphasis on holding group activities,
especially ones that are related to the discipline,
but there also should not be pressure for people
to participate. I think group cohesion is very
important to departmental harmony.
What have been the one or two most important
things that a faculty member has done to really
help you?
The most helpful experiences I've had to date
include a prof encouraging me to follow up a
research paper with real research. He told me
exactly how to secure modest funding, followed
through with a letter of support and the necessary
signatures, and then applied gentle, consistent
pressure on me throughout the research process.
He never let me rest on my laurels. He always
pushed me to do more and showed me exactly how
to do more. He explained the publishing process,
the textbook publishing process, and kept me
in the loop with his correspondences with editors.
I learned a lot about writing for publication.
Secondly, other professors have been flexible
in letting me develop a class project that spoke
directly to my interests rather than produce
something strictly according to their syllabus.
This allowed me to incorporate my interests
into the class material while also having my
writing evaluated by great profs.
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I don't even think I could begin to list them
all; I have had so many positive, helpful experiences
with professors, particularly a couple, and
I can't even quantify it into single experiences.
A couple of things that stand out are standing
up for me when the research I wanted to do was
over a sensitive topic, and giving me the inside
scoop on the job market-things you can't read
in a book.
What is the most important advice you received
from a faculty member?
Honestly, to not take things so personally.
And it's about the soundest and most prescient
advice I've ever received!!
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To develop a thick skin, because between student
evaluations and article rejections, I was going
to need it if I was going to survive academia.
What has been the least helpful thing a
faculty member has done for you or said to you?
I have had many more positive interactions
with faculty members than negative, so probably
the least helpful thing was doing nothing at
all. There were times when a faculty member
said, "Let's get together on that"
or "I want to help you work on that"
and it never happened.
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Least helpful thing said: "Don't get discouraged
at the beginning about the job search. Keep
in mind that the jobs that are listed early
are for people from more prestigious universities.
There will be jobs that will be better for you
that are listed in November, December and January."
The person who said it was not trying to be
malicious, and thought the words would be well-received,
but I don't even think I need to say how it
made me personally feel.
What are the worst assignments you have
had? The best?
The worst assignments I had as a graduate student
were those that were so rigid, I could not glean
any personal benefit from doing them, but had
to do them to complete the requirements for
the course. It's not that I don't trust the
professor to know what is beneficial for me-I
didn't want the entire project changed; in the
cases I am thinking of, I actually wanted to
expand on the project or topic slightly in a
creative way. I could have used the professor's
advice and maybe turned the paper into a publication.
If you want examples, the worst were those where
I was expected to essentially cut and paste
literature together into a "research paper"
like we all did as undergraduates, and where
the professor wanted assignments that were almost
verbatim copied out of the texts. So the best
assignments are those that have practical value,
allow for creativity, and are flexible in their
applications.
Do you feel that there is a difference between
the level and quality of mentoring that female
versus male graduate students receive in your
program (please do not name the program)? If
so, what are the differences? Do you have ideas
about why these differences occur and suggestions
to address them?
While it is hard to make generalizations, looking
back over the few years I have been here, if
anything, in my department, I think that the
males had it a little harder and some of the
faculty (certainly not all) went a little harder
on them, but I think that was probably because
they expected more out of them and less out
of the females, which is a travesty for all
involved in my opinion. As far as the quality
of mentoring, I don't think there was much of
a difference.
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Responses to student questions from the Summer
2005 newsletter:
How many lecture-related activities/games are
appropriate? Where can I find interesting, low-cost
activities for my students?
I like to use about two-three activities each
month though they vary widely depending on the
activity and the course. By activities I mean
games, videos, free-writes, in-class excercises,
etc. The journals
Teaching Sociology and the Journal
of Criminal Justice Education have good
ideas. Many professional conferences offer some
workshops or sessions on teaching. Also, there
are a variety of websites that include ideas
for classroom activities as well as about teaching
in general (no endorsement of any of these is
implied). Even if they're not in your discipline,
they might spark some ideas. Finally, there's
no substitute for talking to other faculty.
http://tep.uoregon.edu/resources/librarylinks/articles/icebreaker.html
http://teaching.berkeley.edu/compendium/
http://honolulu.hawaii.edu/intranet/committees/FacDevCom/guidebk/teachtip/teachtip.htm
http://www.lemoyne.edu/ts/tscyber.html
- for info about how to subscibe to the Teaching
Sociology listserv
As a grad student, for what salary and benefits
is it appropriate to negotiate?
It's extraordinarily rare for graduate students
to be able to negotiate salary and/or benefits.
However, the worst that can happen is that you'll
be told "no." So, consider what you
need and then ask for that along with a justification
for your requests.
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